sophistry: ([Misc] punch every oirishism in the FACE)
Sophie ([personal profile] sophistry) wrote2007-10-03 12:11 pm

Heroes 2x02

The Peter-in-Ireland plot continues to make me faintly squirmy with discomfort, and I think I've figured out why - apart from the hilariously obvious, of course. It's that... gangland violence is... I'd hardly describe it as, like, tearing up the nation or anything, but - let me put it like this. If I were to group Dublin headlines into four major distinct groups, it would look something like:

- Madeleine McCann
- Bertiegate
- Man Shot 7 Times Outside Local Chipper/Molotov Cocktail'd Through Living Room Window/Found Dead in Flat; Police Suspect Gang Feud
- Other

So... it is a Thing, yes. And I'm not sure how cool I am with making something that is a real social problem here into a brief 'slumming it' plot device for a(n American) character. Nor with using it as - thus far - shorthand for Ireland in general. But then, following season one's insightful teachings on race and gender, it is clearly part of this season's drive to educate us about different cultures using meaningful cultural ciphers.

Latin America = curanderas and smuggling people into the USA!
Ancient Japan = samurai and cherry blossoms!
Ireland = bars and blackmarketry.

To conclude: I would quite like - allowing, of course, for plot constraints and all that, and I realise we haven't even rediscovered Niki et al yet, but as long as we're devoting time to this particular storyline... I would quite like to meet an Irish character who is not a criminal.

If I do have further thoughts on the episode - like, you know, about things that actually happened in it, and such - they will have to come after I have slept, because DEAR GOD.

[identity profile] unravels.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe they think like South Park. If they insult absolutely everyone, no one will care. :/

You have not slept?? D:

[identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet they think they're being supper cutting edge by not portraying Ireland as Darby O'Gill and banshees running all over the place.

CULTURAL OUTREACH: YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

[identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
SUPER CUTTING EDGE. SUPER. GOD.

[identity profile] kessie.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why I'm not sure I want to finish Season 1, really. Well, that and because I'm still working through Season 3 of House and Season 3 of Bones has already started. So Heroes has slipped down my "must watch" list.

[identity profile] mad-megan.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. I totally get you there. Out of curiosity, are there any sorts of Irish media that portray Americans from an Irish perspective? I've always been really curious what sort of traits float to the surface when we're looked at by other countries.

It's true, the Irish do seem to have a serious stereotype when they're portrayed over here. Like someone earlier said, either Darby O'Gill or militants or criminals. I think a lot of people in the USofA probably think the majority of Irish still have sheep and live in thatched houses and leave cream out for the fairies. But don't let that get you down. A lot of people in this country still think anyone from Louisiana lives in the swamp, rides around in a pirogue, and keeps pet alligators. Seriously.

bcgphoenix: (sneaky like ninja!...except not.)

[personal profile] bcgphoenix 2007-10-03 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I would quite like to meet an Irish character who is not a criminal.

Word. As squeaky-gleed as I've been about the fact that they've set a major plotline in Cork, I...come on, writers. You are being dumb again. Please stop.

[identity profile] veenstra168.livejournal.com 2007-10-04 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I have to say I kinda agree with you about the Peter in Ireland thing.

You know what's even a little worse than that? That whole deal kinda made me homesick for Ireland.